Well, first, I do not use the term agnostic here as is commonly used: a person who holds that the existence of the ultimate cause, as God, and the essential nature of things are unknown or unknowable. (While I do assert that the existence of God cannot be known with certainty, I do not use agnostic, in this context, with such a connotation.) Rather, I use the term just as Weatherhead used it:
[A] person who is immensely attracted by Christ and who seeks to show his spirit, to meet the challenges, hardships and sorrows of life in the light of that spirit, but who, though he is sure of many Christian truths, feels that he cannot honestly and conscientiously 'sign on the dotted line' that he believes certain theological ideas about which some branches of the church dogmatize...His intellectual integrity makes him say about many things, 'It may be so. I do not know'.
I am a Christian Agnostic in the sense that I feel drawn to the Christian message, and I feel that in Christianity religion reaches its maturity in the person of Jesus; yet, I also feel that some of Christian doctrine is vague, wrong-headed, implausible and perhaps even wrong. Therefore, I am perfectly fine with saying, "I do not see the evidence for doctrine such and such, so I will abstain from believing it"; and this is where Christian Agnosticism finds it's home.
Hi there, I just stumbled across your blog today and find it quite interesting. I was wondering, do you have a list of your favorite books or thinkers on the subject that you could post somewhere? I too am interested in pursuing a more open-minded, intellectually honest, agnostic form of Christianity but find that good resources in this area are hard to come by. Any list you could provide towards that end would be great!
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ReplyDeleteThanks for the comment, and I apologize for taking so long to respond. I would love to recommend books for you, but I want to know exactly what specific subject you're looking for. Theology, scripture, NT studies,OT studies, philosophy, or all of the above?
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ReplyDeleteAbsolutely every single Christian picks and chooses what parts of the Bible they like and don't like. "Agnostic Christian", in the manner you using it, is redundant. You're the same as any other "Christian".
ReplyDelete"Agnosticism is of the essence of science, whether ancient or modern. It simply means that a man shall not say he knows or believes that which he has no scientific grounds for professing to know or believe." ~ Thomas Huxley
"Absolutely every single Christian picks and chooses what parts of the Bible they like and don't like"
DeleteThat is really no true. Most Christians will take one road or the other in order to make theology "work". A christian Agnostic approach can let the problem stand. For example one of the hardest questions in Christian Theology is called the 'Crux Theologorum' or Theologians Cross. It is the question "why some but not others?"
The bible speaks in two ways. It says that God has predestined and chosen those he will save from before time. It also says that man is responsible for his sins and actions, but God wishes them all to be saved. These two ideas do not make sense and appear to contradict .
The Calvinist will say that God Chooses who is saved and damned based on his own sovereign will, and he ignores part of the bible.
Rome and most American Evangelicals say that it is the free will of the person to believe or to reject; to sin or to do good works. They also ignore part of the bible.
I Choose to say "I don't Know" I cannot reconcile the problem and let the problem stand. God does 100% of the work in choosing and saving us, but we are %100 present responsible for our own sin and damnation.
How does this work... I do not know.
I just started an Agnostic Christian Table Talk Facebook group if anyone is interested to discuss it on a FAcebook group. It is very refreshing to find this blog and I will continue to follow it. Thanks!
ReplyDeleteI'm very pleased to find your website. It's great for me as I feel the same. I would be very interested in reading your blog. Many thanks. Jennifer Bate
DeleteThat's curious. An Christian Agnostic Blogger. I have just started out as an agnostic blogger. I see politics from a reason filled perspective. Feel free to check it out.
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DeleteShusaku Endo's book 'Silence' is worth reading as is the Martin Scorcese film of the same name worth watching. It explores the tension between faith and doubt beautifully!
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ReplyDeleteWhen I was a child I went to a Pentecostal church. When I turned 18yrs old I attended the churches of many different religions seeking "The One." None of them felt right and so I stayed home and read my Bible. I am 45yrs old now and have stumbled onto the terms "Agnostic Theist" and "Christian Agnostic" and for the first time in my life, I've found a belief system that feels 100% right! I choose to believe in the Christian God, but I am very much aware that the Bible was written by mankind who is imperfect. I leave room for the possibility that some of the verbiage in the Bible may have been written in error, but that it is the intent that's more important. I also believe that the existence of God is something that cannot be proved or disproved by mankind. I believe that Jesus was the Son of God, but I do not believe that God and Jesus are the same being. Someone commented on here earlier that most Christians pick and choose parts of the Bible they like and that Christian Agnostics are no different from regular Christians. I disagree with that comment as I do not believe in the Trinity, I do not believe mankind can prove/disprove God's existence and I do not mind someone questioning a passage in the Bible. I think the difference between a Christian and a Christian Agnostic/Agnostic Theist, is that Christian Agnostics leave room for error, do not preach one specific faith and may include science in their beliefs.
ReplyDeleteI’m just about the same belief system as you. I don’t drink the cool aid per say but still believe lol
DeleteHi, just came across your blog as I typed Christian agnostic into my search engine.
ReplyDeleteThat term best expresses where my head and heart are at at the present time. Having lost my wife almost a year and a half ago, my wife and I were both Christians and we divided our time between the Catholic and Pentecostal churches for the past twenty years, but now I find myself in a difficult position as an agnostic. I put up a simple blog lately related to the topic. https://questadlucem.blogspot.com/ I am struggling hard with the concept of a loving God......hence the Agnostic Prayer on my simple blog. Thank you sir.
What are your thoughts on the type of religion to practice if you consider yourself to be a Christian agnostic?
ReplyDeleteThis will probably get complicated. I'm in the throes of a huge disruption in my faith perspective. But Whitehead's definition of a Christian agnostic resonates. My story: Grew up in a mainline church, felt called to be a pastor, have done so since the early 70s. I follow contemplative spiritual practices, which have led to deeply profound insights and outright healing, for which I am grateful to the Divine. But for sometime,I have sensed that this Divine has been displaced by humanity's mastery for both creativity and destruction. We have become as gods. Besides the Universe is too grand to be defined by any of the limited perspectives of any particular earth based religions. And yet...I continue to believe that the Way of Jesus is our hope for redeeming humanity's flaws, my flaws. I continue to open myself to this mysterious process of a spiritual voice and presences that seems to come from beyond me, whose purpose is to make me more like Jesus. I attend worship where I can commune each week. I pray the Psalms, study the scriptures and listen in silence. I pray the Prayer of St. Francis. I seek to do good with environmental activism and social justice activities. I grieve the loss of my earlier faith; I fear how fragile this all feels. But I am trying to be the best, most authentic human I can be: by loving after the manner of Jesus.
ReplyDeleteNice Blog to read. I always love to read books about Christianity. I promote the Christian Events and education with the students and adults because of its benefits. Being a christian , I believe that everyone should love Christianity as it pure and motivate you to keep positive vibes in oneself.
ReplyDeleteNot sure if you are still maintaining this blog but I'm curious if recent work by Thomists like Edward Feser (namely, his book "Five proofs of the existence of God") is compatible with Christian agnosticism. On the one hand, first-cause style arguments don't by themselves address Jesus Christ, but they do make a pretty solid case for theism. The only thing left to debate is which brand of theism (Christianity, Catholicism, Islam etc.) is most likely to be true, and that seems to be the project you are concerned with.
ReplyDeleteI consider myself an agnostic Christian who also considers Classical Stoicism to be a valid way to live life. Thanks for your blog and your insights
ReplyDeleteHey! Currently reading this book...."The Christ is Not a Person' The Evolution Of Consciousness And The Destiny Of Man by J.C. Tefft. Along with an excellent book review on 'Good Reads' by Lee Harmon : who discibes himself as a 'Christian Agnostic'.
ReplyDeletei am Christian agnostic and have been for sometime now. i have a hard time put whole hearted faith in the bible. K owing how religion has been used throughout history in politics and by rulers to control and condem behavior of the masses and knowing how the bible was put together by king james. He chose which books to use and which took leave out. i cant help but to doubt the legitimacy of the info in the bible because of the political influence that effected the creation. Thousands of years of different dynasties and civilization adding and subtracting info to fit the narratives of the times. Knowing these things make it hard to believe whole heartedly in the teaching of the bible although i do believe
ReplyDeleteIf I am an agnostic, how can I believe in Divinity, in God? That is not what the word means. I have never been able to appreciate that Weatherhead hijacked the term for his book. He was not an agnostic. He is a Christian who has trouble accepting all the commonly accepted nuances of his faith, but he does believe in God, so he can not be an agnostic. I believe myself to be an agnostic, Christian Agnostic, actually. I do believe Christ existed and I chose to live my life following his teachings, but I am incapable of knowing anything beyond him being an amazing human being that led a life that still today affects so many lives. It is very humbling to accept this, and in my case a source for peace. There is no hiding the influence of man, with all its flaws, in the history of religions, the Bible and other similar books, rituals... I am not an agnostic looking for someone to prove to me that God exists. I am happy where I am. I think that is where we all must be, happy where we are.
ReplyDeleteI grew up a Christian and to this day I have not, nor have any desire to, read the Bible. I am currently attending a Christian college with very traditional views that I cannot bring myself to agree with. I believe that there is enough scientific evidence to explain that the Bible's explanation for how things happened was not, at least entirely, accurate. I believe that God made the world and that Jesus did save humanity, I just can't bring myself to believe that God would condemn anyone to eternal punishment for something so minor as not believing the "right" things. When I found the idea of an Agnostic Christian, I was relieved to find that I was not the only one who felt this way about the Christian fait, and that I did not have to give up my faith simply because I don't completely believe what some book says.
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